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Bill’s Electric, Inc. and International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers Local Union No.
95. Cases 17–CA–18629–1, 17–CA–18697, 17–CA–18787,
and 17–CA–19112
July 24, 2007
DECISION AND ORDER
By Members Liebman, Kirsanow, and Walsh
On August 10, 1999, Administrative Law Judge William L.
Schmidt issued the attached decision.
The General Counsel and Charging Party International Brotherhood of
Electrical Workers Local Union No. 95 (the
The National Labor Relations Board has delegated its authority in this proceeding to a three-member panel.
The Board has considered the decision and the record in light of the exceptions and briefs1 and has decided to affirm the judge’s rulings, findings,2 and conclusions as modified and to adopt the recommended Order, as modified and set forth in full below.
This case presents several issues arising from the
i. the alleged hiring discrimination
A. Facts
The Respondent is an electrical contractor with a main office
in
Alleged discriminatee Ron Lundien became an organizer for
the
Lundien went to the office the next day. He gave Wilson and Reavis a resume detailing
20 years of experience as a journeyman wireman.
During the interview, Lundien stated to
Later on April 23, Lundien directed Mark Miller to apply for work with the Respondent. Miller was a new union member whom the Respondent had discharged in 1994 for poor work performance. Miller called and spoke to Reavis, who said that the Respondent needed electricians. Without disclosing his union affiliation, Miller interviewed with Reavis and was hired by him on April 24. Miller worked only 1 day, on April 27, before quitting.
Lundien was not hired.
Reavis also testified that no positions were available
when Lundien applied. Lundien testified
that is what Reavis told him when Lundien called the
On May 13, Lundien again called the
On May 14, Lundien and union members Randy Claggett, Gerry
Fleming, Jack Massey, and Lyn Uto went to the
In the meantime, the other union members completed their
applications and one asked for an interview.
Lundien testified that the applicants and Wilson were “not rude, but
[were] pleasant.” When asked by the Respondent’s
counsel if
Union salts Karl Gregory and Donald Sapp applied for work
at the
B. The Judge’s Decision
The judge analyzed the 8(a)(3) refusal to hire or consider hiring allegations in the case under the Wright Line8 test of discriminatory motivation. Without any specific discussion of evidence, the judge assumed that the General Counsel met his initial burden of proving that the Respondent was motivated by union animus in failing to hire or consider hiring all seven alleged discriminatees. He then discussed whether the Respondent had met its rebuttal burden of proving that it would have taken the same action even in the absence of union activity.
With respect to Lundien, the judge found that the Respondent had not met its rebuttal burden for refusing to hire or consider hiring Lundien from the time of his April 23 application until May 14, the date of the group application filing. The judge discredited testimony by Wilson and Reavis and rejected as pretext their defense claims about Lundien’s appearance and the lack of job openings. The judge found that they “admittedly declined to treat Lundien as a ‘serious applicant’” after he disclosed his intent to organize.
However, the judge found that Respondent proved it would
not have hired the four May 14 union applicants because of their concerted
participation with Lundien, who refused
The judge also found that the Respondent met its rebuttal
burden with respect to the applications of Gregory and Sapp. The judge specifically credited Reavis’s testimony,
supported by documentary evidence, that the Respondent had no work for Gregory
and Sapp when they applied. He also implicitly credited
C. Analysis
The judge’s decision
predates our decision in
We find the record in this case
is sufficient to determine the merits of the refusal-to-hire allegations under
the
The General Counsel met his
initial burden of proof with respect to Lundien’s April 23 job application. First, the record shows that the Respondent
was hiring. It advertised for
experienced electricians in a local newspaper from April 16 to May 2, it
invited Lundien and Miller to job interviews, and it hired Denby and Miller.9 Although Lundien applied
for a journeyman’s position, and the Respondent hired Denby and Miller as
apprentices, Respondent’s president, Wilson, conceded that an applicant for the
more experienced position could be considered for apprentice positions. Second,
there is no dispute that Lundien had experience and training relevant to the
positions for hire. Third, the
admissions of both Wilson and Reavis that they did not hire Lundien because of
his stated intent to organize the Respondent’s employees prove that the
Respondent’s union animus was a motivating factor in their hiring decision.10
The Respondent failed to meet its
The General Counsel also met his
initial
However, we agree with the judge
that the Respondent has shown that it refused to hire the May 14 applicants
because they acted in concert with Lundien’s refusal to cease videotaping their
application process until
Finally, with respect to the
refusal to hire Gregory and Sapp, we find that the General Counsel has failed
to meet his initial
ii. the
mandatory grievance and
arbitration procedure
A. Facts
At some point between Lundien’s filing of an application on April 23 and the group application filing on May 14, the Respondent changed its application form by adding a paragraph above the signature line that required applicants to agree to resolve through the Respondent’s grievance and arbitration procedure “any legal claims . . . in connection with my rights under Federal or State law, both in connection with the application process and afterwards as an employee.” The application stated that a copy of the grievance policies and procedures, an 8-page statement denominated ADR Form 2, was available on request.
In relevant part,
paragraph 5 of ADR Form 2 is entitled “Arbitration to be Exclusive Procedure
for Resolution of All Disputes,” and it provides that the grievance and arbitration
procedure “shall be the exclusive method of resolution of all disputes, but
this shall not be a waiver of any requirement for the Employee to timely file
any charge with the NLRB, EEOC, or any State Agency . . . as may be required by
law to present and preserve any claimed statutory violation in a timely manner.” ADR Form 2 also provides for a stay of any
court or agency proceeding initiated by an employee until exhaustion of arbitration
proceedings. It further provides for
payment to the Respondent of litigation costs if it obtains a stay or dismissal
of “any lawsuit or agency proceeding . . . filed in violation of this agreement
to resolve the disputes through this exclusive procedure.” ADR Form 2 elsewhere provides that an
arbitrator’s decision shall be final, subject only to judicial review in
After charges were filed alleging the unlawful refusal to hire the May 14 applicants, the Respondent’s counsel sent identical letters to Claggett, Fleming, Massey, and Uto stating that they were “required under the grievance and arbitration procedures that you agreed to in your employment application form with [the Respondent] to follow these grievance procedures as the exclusive step for resolution of any claimed violation of your rights.” A grievance form and a copy of ADR Form 2 were enclosed with each letter. None of the four alleged discriminatees filed grievances, and the Respondent took no further action to enforce its mandatory policy against them.
B. Judge’s Decision
The judge found that the mandatory grievance and arbitration agreement in the application form violated Section 8(a)(1) of the Act, and the letters to the four alleged discriminatees violated Section 8(a)(4) of the Act. He stated that the application and letters, read together, clearly sought to interfere with employee access to the Board. He rejected the Respondent’s reliance on judicial enforcement of mandatory alternative dispute resolution procedures in individual employment rights cases, and on the enforcement of consensual grievance-arbitration systems in the collective-bargaining context. Referring to the provision for imposition of litigation costs if an employee persisted in seeking initial Board relief, the judge found that the mere maintenance of such a system, even if not enforced, would have a chilling effect on statutory rights of access to the Board.
C. Analysis
It is undisputed that the mandatory grievance and arbitration policy established in 1996 applies, inter alia, to the filing of unfair labor practice charges with the Board. On the one hand, the policy does not expressly prohibit the filing of unfair labor practice charges. Indeed, it informs applicants that their participation in the Respondent’s grievance and arbitration procedure does not constitute a waiver of any Board requirements for timely filing of unfair labor practice charges, and the Respondent argues that Board review and determination of whether to defer to a final arbitration award remains an open matter. On the other hand (1) both the application forms and the letters sent in response to the filing of charges in this case emphasize that the grievance and arbitration procedure is the exclusive method for dispute resolution, subject only to limited judicial review, and (2) any applicant or employee seeking to pursue Board relief before completion of the arbitration process would have to bear the costs of any litigation to compel compliance with that process. At the very least, the mandatory grievance and arbitration policy would reasonably be read by affected applicants and employees as substantially restricting, if not totally prohibiting, their access to the Board’s processes. We therefore affirm the judge’s finding that the policy violates Section 8(a)(1) of the Act and that the attempt to enforce it in letters to the alleged discriminatees violated Section 8(a)(4) of the Act.15
Amended Remedy16
The judge found that Lundien’s refusal to
cease videotaping the application process on May 14, in response to which
Wilson summoned police to escort Lundien from the Webb City office, justified
tolling remedial backpay as of that date for the Respondent’s prior unlawful refusal
to hire Lundien and relieved the Respondent of the usual obligation to offer
Lundien instatement. We disagree. The parties litigated the issue of whether
the conduct of Lundien and the four union applicants who acted in concert with
him on May 14 justified the Respondent’s refusal to hire those four applicants. Unlike the May 14 applicants, Lundien was already
a discriminatee whom the Respondent unlawfully had refused to hire after his
April 23 application. The General
Counsel proved that at least one job (possibly more than one) was available
from April 24 through May 14.
Accordingly, the appropriate remedy for the Respondent’s refusal to hire
Lundien includes backpay and instatement to the position for which he
applied. The parties did not litigate
the discrete, separate issue of whether Lundien’s subsequent conduct on May 14 would
have justified terminating him if the Respondent had not unlawfully refused to
hire him prior to that date. In these
circumstances, we have decided to leave resolution of this unlitigated issue to
compliance, where the Respondent, if it wishes to establish that Lundien is not
entitled to instatement and that his backpay must be limited, will have the
burden of establishing that he engaged in misconduct for which it would have
discharged any employee.17 Accordingly, we shall modify the judge’s
recommended Order to include instatement and backpay for Lundien.18
To remedy the Respondent’s unlawful
maintenance and enforcement of the mandatory grievance and arbitration
procedure established in 1996 that interfered with employee access to the Board’s
processes, the judge recommended that the Respondent, if it wished to maintain
this procedure, modify its application form and related documents to specify in
bold print that the procedure does not apply to any matter an employee may
choose to bring before the Board, to cease enforcing the procedure as to any
matter brought before the Board, and to post copies of the remedial notice at
all existing jobsites. We find these
remedial provisions appropriate. In
addition, we shall order the Respondent to mail copies of a remedial notice to
applicants who were required when applying for jobs to agree to use this
procedure as the exclusive means for resolving disputes about the application
process and subsequent employment. “The
Board provides for the mailing of individual notices when posting will not
adequately inform the employees of the violations that have occurred and their
rights under the Act.”19 In this case, it is undisputed that there
were many job applicants who were never hired, and many others who were hired
but no longer work for the Respondent, who would not receive notice of the
Respondent’s unlawful mandatory procedure and their statutory rights unless we
required the Respondent to mail notices to them.
We note that the Respondent claims that in
April 1998 it altered its application form and substituted an optional grievance
and arbitration procedure for the unlawful mandatory procedure established in
1996. The parties did not litigate
whether the Respondent actually implemented a new procedure and whether it
communicated to prior job applicants and present and former employees that they
were no longer bound by the unlawful mandatory procedure with respect to
matters they choose to bring before the Board.
We leave these matters to compliance proceedings.
The National Labor Relations Board orders that the
Respondent, Bill’s Electric, Inc.,
1. Cease and desist from
(a) Threatening employees that the shop would close if the Respondent had to recognize International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers Local No. 95.
(b) Promulgating or maintaining a no-solicitation policy that pertains only to solicitation on behalf of a labor organization.
(c) Soliciting employees to report any employee who fails to adhere to a no-solicitation policy that pertains only to solicitation on behalf of a labor organization.
(d) Telling employees that union sympathizers will be laid off first.
(e) Maintaining a grievance-arbitration procedure as a condition of employment that interferes with employee and job-applicant access to the Board’s processes.
(f) Interfering with employee and job-applicant access to the Board by attempting to enforce the terms of the mandatory grievance-arbitration procedure established in 1996.
(g) Refusing to hire, or consider for hire, any applicant for employment because he or she expresses an intention to engage in union organizational activities.
(h) In any like or related manner interfering with, restraining, or coercing employees in the exercise of the rights guaranteed them by Section 7 of the Act.
2. Take the following affirmative action necessary to effectuate the policies of the Act.
(a) Within 14 days from the date of this Order, offer Ron Lundien instatement to the position for which he applied or, if that position no longer exists, to a substantially equivalent position, without prejudice to his seniority or any other rights or privileges to which he would have been entitled absent the discrimination against him.
(b) Make Ron Lundien whole for any loss of earnings and other benefits suffered as a result of the discrimination against him, in the manner set forth in the “Amended Remedy” section of this Decision.
(c) Within 14 days from the date of this Order, remove from its files any reference to the unlawful refusal to consider and hire Ron Lundien, and within 3 days thereafter, notify him in writing that this has been done and that the discriminatory action will not be used against him in any way.
(d) Modify its employment application form and any other document containing reference to the mandatory grievance-arbitration procedure established in 1996 to specify in bold print that the grievance-arbitration procedure is entirely inapplicable to any matter employees or job applicants may choose to bring before the Board.
(e) Preserve and, within 14 days of a request, or such additional time as the Regional Director may allow for good cause shown, provide at a reasonable place designated by the Board or its agents, all payroll records, social security payment records, timecards, personnel records and reports, and all other records, including an electronic copy of such records if stored in electronic form, necessary to analyze the amount of backpay due under the terms of this Order.
(f) Within 14 days after service by the Region, post at all existing jobsites copies of the attached notice marked “Appendix A.”20 Copies of the notice, on forms provided by the Regional Director for Region 17, after being signed by the Respondent’s authorized representative, shall be posted by the Respondent and maintained for 60 consecutive days in conspicuous places, including all places where notices to employees are customarily posted. Reasonable steps shall be taken by the Respondent to ensure that the notices are not altered, defaced, or covered by any other material. In the event that, during the pendency of these proceedings, the Respondent has gone out of business or closed the facility involved in these proceedings, the Respondent shall duplicate and mail, at its own expense, a copy of the notice to all current employees and former employees employed by the Respondent at any time since April 23, 1996.
(g) Within 14 days after service by the Region, duplicate and mail, at
its own expense, copies of the attached notice marked “Appendix B”21 to all individuals who were required
as a condition of the application process to sign application forms agreeing to
the terms of the grievance-arbitration procedure established in l996. Copies of the notice, signed by the
Respondent’s authorized representative, shall be mailed to the last known
address of each of these individuals.
(h) Within 21 days after service by the Region, file with the Regional Director a sworn certification of a responsible official on a form provided by the Region attesting to the steps that the Respondent has taken to comply.
Dated,
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Wilma B. Liebman, Member
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Peter N. Kirsanow, Member
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Dennis P. Walsh, Member
(seal) National
Labor Relations Board
APPENDIX A
Notice To Employees
Posted by Order
of the
National Labor Relations
Board
An Agency of the
The National Labor Relations Board has found that we violated Federal labor law and has ordered us to post and obey this notice.
federal law gives you the right to
Form, join, or assist a union
Choose representatives to bargain with us on your behalf
Act together with other employees for your benefit and protection
Choose not to engage in any of these protected activities.
We will not threaten our employees that the shop will close if we have to recognize the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers Local Union No. 95 as their exclusive collective-bargaining representative.
We
will not promulgate or maintain a
no-solicitation policy that pertains only to solicitation on behalf of a labor
organization.
We
will not solicit employees to
report to us any employee who fails to adhere to a no-solicitation policy that
pertains only to solicitation on behalf of a labor organization.
We
will not tell employees that union
sympathizers will be laid off first.
We will not maintain a grievance-arbitration procedure as a condition of employment that interferes with employee and job-applicant access to the Board’s processes.
We will not interfere with employee and job-applicant access to the Board’s processes by attempting to enforce in any way the terms of the grievance-arbitration procedure adopted in 1996.
We will not refuse to consider for employment or refuse to hire job applicants because they express an intention to engage in union organizational activities.
We will not in any like or related manner interfere with, restrain, or coerce you in the exercise of the rights guaranteed you by Section 7 of the Act.
We will, within 14 days from the date of the Board’s Order, offer Ron Lundien instatement to the position for which he applied or, if that position no longer exists, to a substantially equivalent position, without prejudice to his seniority or any other rights or privileges to which he would have been entitled absent the discrimination against him.
We will make Ron Lundien whole for any loss of earnings and other benefits he may have suffered by reason of the discrimination against him.
We will, within 14 days from the date of the Board’s Order, remove from our files any reference to the unlawful refusal to consider and hire Ron Lundien, and we will, within 3 days thereafter, notify him in writing that this has been done and that the unlawful action will not be used against him in any way.
We will modify our employment application form and any other document containing reference to the mandatory grievance-arbitration procedure established in 1996 to specify in bold print that the grievance-arbitration procedure is entirely inapplicable to any matter employees or job applicants may choose to bring before the Board.
Bill’s Electric, Inc.
APPENDIX B
Notice To Employees
Mail by Order of
the
National Labor Relations
Board
An Agency of the
The National Labor Relations Board has found that we violated Federal labor law and has ordered us to post and obey this notice.
federal law gives you the right to
Form, join, or assist a union
Choose representatives to bargain with us on your behalf
Act together with other employees for your benefit and protection
Choose not to engage in any of these protected activities.
We will not maintain a grievance-arbitration procedure as a condition of employment that interferes with employee and job-applicant access to the Board’s processes.
We will not interfere with employee and job-applicant access to the Board’s processes by attempting to enforce in any way the terms of the grievance-arbitration procedure we adopted in 1996 that you were required to agree to as a condition of your application to work for us.
We will not in any like or related manner interfere with, restrain, or coerce you in the exercise of the rights guaranteed you by Section 7 of the Act.
We will modify our employment application form and any other document containing reference to the mandatory grievance-arbitration procedure established in 1996 to specify in bold print that the grievance-arbitration procedure is entirely inapplicable to any matter employees or job applicants may choose to bring before the Board.
Bill’s Electric, Inc.
Francis A. Molenda, Esq., for General Counsel.
Donald W.
Jones, Atty. (Hulston, Jones, Gammon & Marsh), of
Michael
J. Stapp, Atty. (Blake & Uhlig), of
DECISION
Statement of the Case
William L. Schmidt, Administrative Law Judge: Local 95,
International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, AFL–CIO (Local 95 or the
I heard this
case at
Findings of Fact
i. jurisdiction
The Company, a
corporation, engaged in business as a commercial electrical contractor,
maintains an office and place of business in
ii. alleged unfair labor practices
A. The Complaint Allegations
Complaint
paragraph 5 alleges that the Company violated Section 8(a)(1) of the Act by Foreman
Greg Reber’s conduct in promulgating an unlawful no-solicitation rule,
soliciting employees to spy on the union activities of other employees and
report them to the Company, and threatening employees with layoff for engaging
in union or concerted activities. It
also alleges that the Company violated Section 8(a)(1) by Foreman Roy Purdue’s
conduct in threatening employees with “plant closure” if they engaged in union
or concerted activities. Respondent
denied that Reber and Purdue are supervisors or agents within the meaning of
Section 2(11) and (13) and further denies the specific unfair labor practice
allegations attributed to them.
Complaint
paragraph 6 alleges that on various dates between April 23 and October 4,
Respondent granted a wage increase to employees, and refused to consider or
hire seven applicants for employment because those employees joined and
assisted the Union in violation of Section 8(a)(1) and (3) of the Act.[1]
Complaint
paragraph 7 in effect alleges that Respondent maintains a grievance and
arbitration system requiring employees and applicants for employment to utilize
that system as the exclusive means of resolving all legal claims against the Company. It further alleges that the Company sought to
invoke that system to resolve the claims made by four applicants for employment. The complaint avers this conduct violates
Section 8(a)(1) and (4) of the Act because it seeks to prevent employee access
to the National Labor Relations Board (the Board). Respondent admitted the factual allegations
in paragraph 7 but denied that its grievance and arbitration system violates
the Act.
B. Relevant Facts
1. Background and wage rates
For about five
decades Respondent has been engaged in the electrical contracting
business. Throughout that time its principal
office and place of business has been located in
Dale Wilson,
Respondent’s president and chief executive officer, oversees the entire
operation. John Reavis, Respondent’s
superintendent of operations, works from the
Workers seeking
employment on projects under the direction of the
Charging Party’s
Exhibit 3, a company document dated October 13, 1995, sets forth the Company’s
wage scale at that time. Whether this
document represented increases in pay effective on that date is not clear.
On May 6, 1996,
the Company adopted a new wage scale. (See
GC Exh. 3.) This announcement retained
the pay band concept only for the apprentice classifications and announced sizeable
pay increases that ranged from as low as 70 cents per the high end of the first
year apprentice rate to $6.24 per hour for a worker classed at the low end of
the journeyman pay band under the October 1995 announcement. At the top end of the October 1995 pay bands,
the May 1996 pay announcement would have resulted in significant increases that
ranged from 70 cents per hour for the first year apprentice ($6.50 per hour before
the May increase) to $3.74 per hour for the fourth year apprentice ($9.50 per
hour before the May increase). However,
no evidence was introduced that would permit a determination as to whether any
worker actually received such a dramatic increase in pay or whether this was a
mere anomaly resulting from the abandonment of the pay band system for that
classification.
According to
Regardless of
the foregoing documentary evidence, some other evidence tends to indicate that
the classification of employees remains largely a subjective exercise by
Wilson, Reavis, and McInturff. In
certain instances, as illustrated by employee Mark Miller discussed below, an
employee’s pay rate would appear to be affected more by what the employee indicates
he or she would be willing to work for rather than some objective standard
concerning the employee’s experience in the trade.
2. The job foremen
Respondent
employs job foremen to oversee the work at its various jobsites throughout the
region where it operates. As noted, the
conduct of two foremen, Greg Reber and Roy Purdue, is at issue in this case but
Respondent denies that either Reber or Purdue were supervisors or agents at
relevant times.[2] Neither testified in this proceeding.[3]
According to
In the spring
and summer of 1996, Reber served as job foreman for three geographically
separated projects in the
Job foremen are
responsible for maintaining the project time records and submitting them to the
office so that employees are paid in a timely fashion. Other evidence shows that Purdue distributed
paychecks to crewmembers and reviewed those checks for accuracy. Under Respondent’s pay system announced on
May 6, the foreman classification is paid 70 cents per hour more than the
journeyman wireman classification but, according to
3. The
In early April
1996, Ron Lundien became an organizer for Local 95, an affiliate of the IBEW
with geographical jurisdiction extending over 10 southwest
Lundien first
sought employment. On April 22, he telephoned
the Company and spoke with Reavis about applying for work. Reavis invited him to the Company’s
Based on Lundien’s
candid assertion that he intended to organize Respondent’s employees, Reavis
felt that Lundien was not a serious applicant for employment. Reavis assumed that Lundien received pay for
his organizing activities and asserted that he preferred to hire employees who
needed work rather than those already working.
According to Reavis, the Company had no openings for an organizer and,
in any event, he would not likely hire anyone who asserted, in effect, that
they intended to engage in another concurrent sideline such as selling
insurance or bibles. In any event,
Reavis claimed that the Company had no further openings at that time. Lundien never received an employment offer
from the Company.[6]
From the time of
Lundien’s application through May 14, Respondent hired three employees, Mark
Miller, Philip Morrison, and Steven Denby, at the
The day after
Lundien submitted his first application, he instructed Mark Miller, formerly
employed by the Company from 1992 to 1994 and recently accepted into union
membership, to apply for employment.
Miller called the Company on April 24 and spoke with Reavis. After Reavis told Miller that the Company
needed electricians, Miller went to the
Miller reported
to the Sears jobsite at starting time on April 27. Reber provided him with his work assignment
and Miller worked through the morning without incident. At the lunchbreak, Miller met with Lundien
and Brown in the Sears parking lot and they provided him with union stickers
that he put on his hard had and a union T-shirt that he wore back to the
project following lunch. Lundien and
Brown accompanied Miller and the three men spoke with Reber. Miller requested that his pay be increased to
$13 per hour under the Respondent’s wage scale.
Reber rejected Miller’s request for increased pay and when pressed
further, Reber refuse to “bother” higher management (Wilson or Reavis) with
Miller’s request. Although Lundien
claims that he advised Reber that Miller would strike if his pay was not
increased, in fact Miller returned to work that afternoon.
Shortly after
the lunchbreak ended, Reber, a former member of the
On April 29,
Lundien called the Company’s office, spoke with Reavis, and asked again if any
jobs were available. At that time,
Reavis told Lundien that there were no jobs available. Reavis also told Lundien that his previous
application would be good for a year.
Lundien made another similar call to the company office on May 13 but
spoke with
In the meantime,
on May 6 Reber went to the
On May 14,
Lundien arranged to have union members Randy Claggett, Gerry Fleming, Jack
Massey, and Lyn Uto accompany him to the Company’s office to apply for
work. Lundien took a video camera along
to videotape their application process.
Once inside the Company’s relatively small office, the Company’s receptionist
provided applications to the four men while Lundien videotaped the process. When
Q. And how did it impress you when they come in May 14, 1996, with their video cameras? Did you consider that was helpful to them getting a job?
[Intervening objection overruled.]
The Witness: Again, it’s similar to what I was saying a while ago. They come in and wanted the—some—ask for some applications.